Saturday, September 13, 2008

Newest crackdown against dissent - Malaysia heading for another Ops. Lalang?

A duplicate post from here

DAP leader Teresa Kok has also been detained under the Internal Security Act - the third person to be detained without trial today.
Confirmed by DGP
Arrested at 11.18pm

Malaysiakini report


First it was a blogger. And then it was a journalist.

Then went an MP and a state exco member.

The last time a journalist or an MP was detained under the ISA act, it was 21 years ago. We lived under a more oppressive regime, a more oppressive leader, a nation that did not tolerate dissent.

Or so we thought.

Echoing the sentiments of the Malaysian Bar Council President, I was under the impression that Malaysia was moving towards being a more open, matured society where dissent was accepted, even cherished. Evidently I have given too much credit to my nation's government.

They still resort to the Machiavellian ways of running the country - by arresting and jailing dissenters as means to threaten and intimidate the general population. And we say that our nation is not in distress.

To the Home Ministry, I ask you this : How is it that you can perceive these 3 Malaysians, especially the two women, Teresa Kok and Sin Chew report Tan Hong Chen to be a grave threat to Malaysian national security? Have they purchased bombs to blow up a body? What have they done, but to fight for justice, for freedom, for the rights of the individuals in our nation of Malaysia?

One can only wonder as to the plans of the Home Ministry. Are more to come?

Of particular concern is the arrest of Teresa Kok. An MP and a state exco legislator. The arrest not only deprives her of the individual liberties supposedly guranteed under article 5 of our constitution, but also deprives the people of Seputeh and Selangor of their right to representation in the Federal and State Parliament.

Only time will tell whether we will shrink back into our holes, cower and hide, just like in 1987, or we will come forward to aid our heroes in a time where they now need us to bear the torch for them. Will we fight for justice, for freedom, and for the liberty of these 3 heroes, now that they are incapable of carrying on our fight?

This is to say that we should help them peacefully, without resorting to violence, for it would become a greater atrocity and blow to our 3 heroes' cause if we were to spiral into a web of violence and bloodshed. We must show that we, the rakyat of Malaysia oppose and will not take the jailing of our people lightly, but we still have the maturity and restrain ourselves.

Before I end, I will leave you with 4 profound, and extremely appropriate quotes:


Dissent is the highest form of patriotism - Howard Zinn

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up." - Pastor Martin Niemoller.

Fight for me, and I'll fight for you! - Teresa Kok

Before one can be fit for the practice of civil disobedience one must have rendered a willing and respectful obedience to the state laws. . . A Satyagrahi obeys the laws of society intelligently and of his own free will, because he considers it to be his sacred duty to do so. It is only when a person has thus obeyed the laws of society scrupulously that he is in a position to judge as to which particular rules are good and just and which injust and iniquitous. Only then does the right accrue to him of the civil disobedience of certain laws in well-defined circumstances. - Mahatma Gandhi

10 comments:

inkish27 said...

Basically....
What they (government) are trying to do is make sure no one dares to ask the unquestionable...
Unquestionable... Things that they can't come up with an answer...

So much for freedom of speech...

But as for the victims...
They may not be armed or carrying any bombs...
But words are sharper than swords...
What they have done could unleash a threat on our country and the people...
They are wrong at some point...

They may be right about the things they said, but because the things they said will create questions in the people.... Our curiosity will make us lose faith in our government if they couldn't come up with a quick acceptable answer or solution fast... Thus creating chaos...

I have no idea how but probably if the victims had take the initiative to find better way to find the answers to all their questions, they might not be at where they are now...

Ask nicely if you want a good result...

Can what they have done be consider as thinking for the best interest of our nation?
Or are they trying to create riot with their little research and question?
Some people might misinterpret what they had said and comes up with more questions... More questions more problems more chaos....


Whose mind are they messing with...
Ours or the governments?

No wonder they are held for investigation...

Wayne. said...

Haha. It's quite comical that the messenger is being shot down instead of the perpetrator.

Good job, UMN- I mean, Malaysia! We're well on our way to 1984- er, 2020!

And to inkish27, you basically said that if we ask questions, we should be locked up in jail otherwise the country will lose faith in the government and descend into chaos.

Could you please elaborate on the logic of that?


OH NO, CHAOS-

inkish27 said...

We all have the right to talk
But not sensitive issues...

If you have problem with the way the system works..
Probably you can approach someone in the government or in the parliament....
Someone who would understand it better.. to explain it to you what really is happening...

But instead...
The bloggers reacted like what I call what little kid would do..
Blab
Questions are not that innocent anymore
Sometimes.. even big people from the government won't be able to change suddenly or give you a straight reply....
If you ask them one on one...
Probably things would work out after a few research and discussion..
Sit down on the round table and talk...


But if you put your views on blogs..
Concerning everyone else...
Races
Governments
Systems
You indirectly formed a voice....
You gather peoples attention...
To look from your point of view
To question the government..
Demanding for an answer..
For what you called justice...

You indirectly created uncertainty in people....
We have been conned
We have been cheated
What on earth is going on..
We have trusted the untrustworthy people

People walking in groups = anger

Anger=threat

In the end....
Instead of getting a solution...
You gathered fans..
Gather anti government people

No questions and quarrels would be resolved...
But you definitely get people's attention...
thanks to people interpreting your ideas wrongly and their long accumulated hates and curiosity


There are many way to question
But obviously they weren't questioning
They were expressing their hate... and getting people to agree with it

Aren't they posing as a threat?
Shouldn't the government lock them up to ask them.. what the hell do you really want from us?
A fight?


Lets put it simply...
Imagine you are in a group
And you saw your poor group's treasurer purchasing something super expensive with your group's rival...
Instead of approaching your treasurer about it
You went to blog about it..
You not just directly took away your treasurer's right to reply..
But you also created and gather many people that could pressure your treasurer..


Izzit fair?
You were right to question
But were you asking in the right way?
Bloggers miss used their privilege...

I think la..... my 1 cent opinion....
Not like I'm the government's supporter...
Just that I think it is foolish everyone is getting so much pain out of it....

Wayne. said...

What's so wrong about reporting the truth? Is the public no longer entitled to be kept up to date with what's going on?

"Shouldn't the government lock them up to ask them.. what the hell do you really want from us?
A fight?"

No, we just want to report what happened.

We should NOT be living in an oppressive environment. What's wrong with asking questions of the government? Are we supposed to be complacent and simply accept everything that the government does or says? Is that the true meaning of democracy? To elect a group of people to rule as dictators?

We have an MP making a blatantly racial remark that clearly touches on one of the 'sensitive issues' and we have a reporter that reports the incident. Who's in the wrong here? Oh, of course! It's the journalist! Pesky little racist, she's trying to cause a riot! Detain her!

inkish27 said...

Not all of us react towards truth the same way...

Riot?
Bloggers?
Hindraf?

Don't we have enough examples..

Fragments of truth can cause chaos..
We need the complete truth and solution together....

Sometimes... Getting too many people involve in the process of solving a problem will only make things to be even more difficult than it already is...

Is it worth it to trade our country's peace for updated news?

So what if we are updated on what some people say...
We have the right..
We want to hear it...
We want to be involve because this is our nation too...
We can't allow them to keep this problem down..
Make it big..
Make sure the whole world knows..
What is going on in there...
And then what?
What can we do?
Get a bloody lawyer to sue him?
Or make sure.. His face is well known and make us all hate him..
What.. we have the right what....
Even though the government can solve it without us knowing...
They got to be invisible..
Because we must see...
every little detail..

Ignorance is a bliss...
Bah...
What a bull...

What the hell do I know about gov anyway..
The world is too corrupted to be understood...

Wayne. said...

Fragments of truth? Our good old ex-MP made a blatantly racist remark. That's all there is to it. I don't see why we're not entitled to be aware of the fact that that happened. In that case, I think I want to become an MP and promote extreme racism in Malaysia. For that matter, I probably should murder a couple of people I don't like along the way.

I won't be reported, see.

vchi said...

I find the remark that the public must be shielded and protected from the truth most offensive, demeaning and naive.

What truth is so terrible that the public should be 'protected' from it?

If the statement made is false, he/she can be prosecuted under the defamation or anti slander laws.

Truth is a complete defense to slander. The public has a right to know the dealings of the government and what goes on behind the scenes with their money.

It is because of this I find the sedition has to be repealed. If the statement is a lie, prosecute him. If it is defamatory, prosecute him. But if it is the truth, then let freedom ring.

By saying that we have to be protected seriously underestimates our maturity and character.

But it is the ISA I find that is the biggest travesty and crime to human freedom and individual liberties and rights of Malaysians.

The Tunku promised on the floor of Parliament that the ISA would never be used to silent dissenters. My, my. How the current regime has deviated from the original spirit of the ISA.

What is the role and the powers of the courts if the state does not need to prove its case, does not need reasonable proof before arresting someone? This single act qualifies Malaysia as a police state and should be grouped together with the likes of Zimbabwe and Sudan. We can jail and interrogate without reason or proof.

Even more offensive is the remark from the Home Minister saying that Sin Chew reporter Tan was arrested to protect her safety. Of course, typical of any BN politician, he goes back on his statement just hours later, but the damage is already done. How can you arrest someone to aid investigations (Teresa)? Where is innocent until proven guilty?

The last straw came just a couple of days ago when the Home Minister signed the order for RPK's arrest under section 8 the night before his Habeas writ, undermining his appeal. This is the most underhanded, disgusting, vile and dirty Machiavellian political maneuver and manipulation that aims to frustrate his rights as a Malaysian. The fact that the conversion from section 7 to 8, which removes the right to appeal under causation, came prematurely (only 11 days of the 60 days of section 7). What a vile regime we have!

PS: Just listen to a true account of an ex ISA detainee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkK9lCYQzA4

Those thugs are still walking free!

Wayne. said...

While we try to portray Malaysia as a country that practices separation of power (judiciary, executive and legislative), the fact remains that all these three facets are controlled by the same group of people. So much for that.

Oh, and check this out:

http://www.skthew.com/2007/09/20/does-separation-of-powers-still-work-in-malaysia/

vchi said...

I think that the doctrine of the separation of powers is paramount in a state. I won't go through all the benefits of it, as I'm sure you are familiar with them.

However, what appeals to me the most is that it doesn't rest all power on one particular party. The courts are able to keep the executive branch in line while the lower house is able to keep the legislative branch in line, vice versa.

Wayne. said...

My point is that, while we say we're practicing it, we're really not.